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Successful literary collaborations are rare.

There are a few exceptions, including Mark Twain and Charles Dudley Warner (The Gilded Age), Charles Nordhoff and James Norman Hall ( Mutiny on the Bounty), Bud Abbott and Lou Costello ("Who's on First?"). And they usually involve just a single genre.

Larry McMurtry and Diana Ossana have now mastered two: fiction (the novels Pretty Boy Floyd and Zeke and Ned) and film (their Academy Award-winning screenplay for Brokeback Mountain, adapted from Annie Proulx's short story).

While working on the set for the upcoming miniseries Comanche Moon , which they adapted from Mr. McMurtry's novel that is a prequel to the hugely successful Lonesome Dove and which debuts on KTVT-TV (Channel 11) on Sunday, they spoke by phone for this interview, a rarity for Mr. McMurtry.

What can you tell us about the moments at which the two of you decided that you wanted to work on these projects together? Is it always a democratic process with both of you getting an equal vote as to what stays and what goes?

McMurtry: It's a totally democratic process, and in essence for us it's meant taking what comes our way. About the only job we're turned down was The Return of Rin Tin Tin, and if it should come around again, which it might, we'd probably take it.

Screenwriting jobs don't grow on trees, no matter how popular you're considered to be. We avoid purely speculative jobs that are not likely to be movies no matter how good the script, but we consider ourselves lucky to have been offered projects that we can execute effectively as screenwriters and see them get made.

Ossana: Ditto as to most of what Larry said, except we don't take everything that comes our way. There have been several projects I wanted to do that he simply batted away ... except for Brokeback Mountain . I insisted he read the short story, although he doesn't read short fiction because he says he can't write it.

When Larry writes alone, he is much more elaborative in his prose. When he writes with me, however, it's much more skeletal. I take his pages, usually five a day, and fill them in, delete, add pages, add narrative ... then print my pages, which he gets in the evening and has for his morning writing. We do that, every day, until we have a first draft.

Most of the time it's totally democratic, but we've had some Olympic-sized arguments about specific things, like the ending for Pretty Boy Floyd. Larry says he has no memory of that, but I think it's because he lost that one.

Well, I don't know that it's true Larry can't write short fiction – Comanche Moon clocks in at only 700-plus pages. That's short by the standards of some of Larry's novels, and certainly compared with War and Peace.

McMurtry: I've written several books shorter than Comanche Moon , including the very slender When the Light Goes, just published. But they aren't short stories or short fiction. The only short story I've ever written, published in the Texas Quarterly long ago, is called There Will Be Peace in Korea. Tommy Lee Jones has done a fine reading of it on audiobook.

Ossana: Short stories are much more demanding than novels; they require a kind of precision not necessary in long-form prose. It's easier to meander around in a novel, certainly. Larry, basically a wanderer himself, enjoys the more forgiving form of a novel.

For the miniseries, did you have to cut any major characters or plot lines?

Ossana: It wasn't so much that we had to give up major characters or story lines; it was that the last part of the novel is so unrelentingly grim that we found it necessary to newly imagine a large portion of part three of the miniseries.

A couple of decades ago, in his book of essays on Texas, In a Narrow Grave, Mr. McMurtry wrote: "The figure of the Westerner is gradually being challenged by more modern figures. At the moment, the Secret Agent seems to be dominant." James Bond is still with us. Do you think the Westerner will continue to have a future? If so, in what ways will he or she have to adapt?

McMurtry: I don't think much about the figure of the Westerner. There's a good piece in the current [spring] issue of the Claremont Review of Books on myself and the rest. It's by Douglas Jeffrey. It's good. Give it a look.

Ossana: The Westerner will always be with us, in one form or another, since it's such a vital part of America's history. The notion of an adventurous loner, free of restriction, a risk taker, someone who lives by the seat of his pants, so to speak, is [so] integral to the romantic notion, right or wrong, of what it means to be a man in this country that it continues to exist in both literature and film: war stories, spy stories, stories about space and astronauts, even historical works, as in Ridley Scott's Gladiator, or the neurotic criminals in The Sopranos; and even the couple in Mr. and Mrs. Smith, a sort of contemporary version of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. The Westerner will never disappear entirely from our consciousness. As Larry himself said, he initially wrote Lonesome Dove as an anti-mythic Western, but readers everywhere read it, loved it and embraced the myth even tighter than before.

Between fiction, film and television, you two are becoming a light industry. What are you working on for the immediate future?

Ossana: We're working on Boone's Lick, a novel of Larry's that was published in 2000, for Tom Hanks to star in, tentatively scheduled to begin filming later this year, as well as two hour pilots for ABC and Fox. ... It's good to be busy!

Allen Barra is a contributing editor for American Heritage .

Comanche Moon
8 p.m. Sunday, KTVT-TV (Channel 11). 2 hrs. Continues Tuesday and Wednesday.